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Old 16-10-11, 10:11 PM
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Schools to ban skirts if pupils don't lower their hems
Headteachers claim girls are putting themselves at risk and may be forced to wear trousers instead

By Alison Shepherd
Sunday, 16 October 2011

Headteachers across the country are banning girls from wearing skirts in school for fear that their ever-shorter hemlines put them at risk of attack.

Parents in the Kent town of Herne Bay are the latest to receive a letter from a local secondary school warning that, because of "serious safeguarding issues", pupils will be forced to wear trousers if they continue to wear skirts more than 10cm above their knees.

The school is following the lead of a number of others across England, from Cheshire to Suffolk, that have imposed – or threatened – a ban on skirts this year, with most citing "health and safety" or "safeguarding".

In her letter, Claire Owen, the principal at Herne Bay High School, said she feared some pupils were "putting themselves at risk" and that unless skirts became longer she would institute a ban. Speaking later on a local radio station, Dr Owen added that she thought the girls were unaware that the way they were dressing could "give out the wrong message".

But Peter Bradley, the deputy director of the children's charity Kidscape, said that by suggesting skirt length is a factor in sexual attacks, schools could actually be putting girls at greater risk. He fears that such messages could give teenagers a false sense of security that wearing more "appropriate" clothing makes them safer. "Records of attacks on women and girls over the years have not followed hemlines, up or down," he said.

"To judge this as a serious safeguarding concern is questionable. Girls who wear trousers will still be potentially at risk of unwanted sexual advances. Girls who wear rolled-up skirts to look more fashionable are not inviting sexual advances. They are going through adolescence, just like their mothers and grandmothers did themselves."

In the letters to parents explaining the bans, headteachers have also said that, apart from safety fears, the girls' attitude to their skirts flouts the uniform policy, wastes the time of teachers who have to tackle uniform issues, and leads to pupils missing lessons when they are sent home to change.

Mr Bradley believes that schools need to impose uniform boundaries that instill pride and a sense of belonging, but that scaring pupils rather than empowering is the wrong way to impose authority.

"Obviously, schoolchildren need rules and boundaries to ensure they learn in a safe and structured setting, however banning girls from wearing skirts that are judged to be too short seems to be an extreme decision," Mr Bradley said. "A school that feels the need to ban skirts due to pupils not co-operating with staff requests should be more concerned about their pupils' behaviour rather than child protection concerns."

Even the national body that represents headteachers is wary of outright bans. Russell Hobby, the general secretary of the NAHT, said that schools have battled for generations against teenagers wanting to express themselves through their clothes by adapting their uniforms in whatever way they can.

But he added: "It is probably better to encourage boys and girls not to make assumptions about each other based exclusively on how they dress. In any case, trousers are probably as capable as skirts of being cut and styled to suit the desired image.

"Banning any item of clothing tends to harden opinions on each side. Creating a uniform code that permits a range of choices – so people can find something in which they feel confident – is probably the best approach."

Schools to ban skirts if pupils don't lower their hems - Education News, Education - The Independent
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Yeah, okay.

Since we're having a discussion on rape again, I'd like to link that. I know stats say that what women wear is irrelevant and, to a large degree, I agree with what the guy says about teenagehood.

OTOH, as a man, I got to admit to being fairly turned on by short skirt. Now, good looking legs will make trousers very attractive too. But short skirts can work on a slightly greater range of legs and bottoms.

Furthermore, being turned on isn't the same as "let's go rape that girl". But still...
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Well of course its an attempt to turn you on, quite deliberately, so "but still " what?
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Well, I am not exactly a rapist but, being turned on, does lead me to enjoy lewder thoughts than otherwise and my first impulse is to/my wish would be to just come up the girl and slide my hand below the skirt, from the inside of her thigh to her bottom.

Now, I have never done that with a woman who had not clearly given/signaled consent. But, on men less well controlled than myself? It's hard to dispel the idea that this would not have some consequence.

Practicalities and opportunity are surely the over-riding factor as no rapist intend to finish in jail, one would assume, "but still..."
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Well that just looks to me like assuming men are cretinous idiots. And it then transposes the responsibility for dealing with it onto women.

I don't think the phenomenon of men harassing women in this way has anything much to do with what they wear any more than other forms of assault.
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Stats tend to back you up, afaik so I'll concede the point. But still...
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