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The Empathy Ceiling: The Rich Are Different — And Not In a Good Way, Studies Suggest
The 'Haves' show less empathy than 'Have-nots'
by Brian Alexander

Psychologist and social scientist Dacher Keltner says the rich really are different, and not in a good way: Their life experience makes them less empathetic, less altruistic, and generally more selfish.

Lissette Gutierrez chose a pair of $1,495 Christian Louboutin shoes at Bergdorf Goodman in Manhattan. An article called “Social Class as Culture: The Convergence of Resources and Rank in the Social Realm,” published this week in the journal Current Directions in Psychological Science, argues that rich people are more likely to think about themselves. Because the rich gloss over the ways family connections, money and education helped, they come to denigrate the role of government and vigorously oppose taxes to fund it. (Deidre Schoo for The New York Times) In fact, he says, the philosophical battle over economics, taxes, debt ceilings and defaults that are now roiling the stock market is partly rooted in an upper class "ideology of self-interest."

“We have now done 12 separate studies measuring empathy in every way imaginable, social behavior in every way, and some work on compassion and it’s the same story,” he said. “Lower class people just show more empathy, more prosocial behavior, more compassion, no matter how you look at it.”

In an academic version of a Depression-era Frank Capra movie, Keltner and co-authors of an article called “Social Class as Culture: The Convergence of Resources and Rank in the Social Realm,” published this week in the journal Current Directions in Psychological Science, argue that “upper-class rank perceptions trigger a focus away from the context toward the self….”

In other words, rich people are more likely to think about themselves. “They think that economic success and political outcomes, and personal outcomes, have to do with individual behavior, a good work ethic,” said Keltner, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Berkeley.

Because the rich gloss over the ways family connections, money and education helped, they come to denigrate the role of government and vigorously oppose taxes to fund it.

“I will quote from the Tea Party hero Ayn Rand: “‘It is the morality of altruism that men have to reject,’” he said.

Whether or not Keltner is right, there certainly is a “let them cake” vibe in the air. Last week The New York Times reported on booming sales of luxury goods, with stores keeping waiting lists for $9,000 coats and the former chairman of Saks saying, “If a designer shoe goes up from $800 to $860, who notices?”

According to Gallup, Americans earning more than $90,000 per year continued to increase their consumer spending in July while middle- and lower-income Americans remained stalled, even as the upper classes argue that they can’t pay any more taxes. Meanwhile, the gap between the wealthiest and the rest of us continues to grow wider, with over 80 percent of the nation’s financial wealth controlled by about 20 percent of the people.

Unlike the rich, lower class people have to depend on others for survival, Keltner argued. So they learn “prosocial behaviors.” They read people better, empathize more with others, and they give more to those in need.

That’s the moral of Capra movies like “You Can’t Take It With You,” in which a plutocrat comes to learn the value of community and family. But Keltner, author of the book “Born To Be Good: The Science of A Meaningful Life,” doesn’t rely on sentiment to make his case.

He points to his own research and that of others. For example, lower class subjects are better at deciphering the emotions of people in photographs than are rich people.

In video recordings of conversations, rich people are more likely to appear distracted, checking cell phones, doodling, avoiding eye contact, while low-income people make eye contact and nod their heads more frequently signaling engagement.

In one test, for example, Keltner and other colleagues had 115 people play the “dictator game,” a standard trial of economic behavior. “Dictators” were paired with an unseen partner, given ten “points” that represented money, and told they could share as many or as few of the points with the partner as they desired. Lower-class participants gave more even after controlling for gender, age or ethnicity.

Keltner has also studied vagus nerve activation. The vagus nerve helps the brain record and respond to emotional inputs. When subjects are exposed to pictures of starving children, for example, their vagus nerve typically becomes more active as measured by electrodes on their chests and a sensor band around their waists. In recent tests, yet to be published, Keltner has found that those from lower-class backgrounds have more intense activation.

Other studies from other researchers have not produced the clear-cut results Keltner uses to advance his argument. In surveys of charitable giving, some show that low-income people give more, but other studies show the opposite.

“The research regarding income and helping behaviors has always been little bit mixed,” explained Meredith McGinley, a professor of psychology at Pittsburgh’s Chatham University.

Then there is the problem of Tea Partiers’ own class position. While they are funded by the wealthy, many do not identify themselves as wealthy (though there is dispute on the real demographics). Still, a strong allegiance to the American Dream can lead even regular folks to overestimate their own self-reliance in the same way as rich people.

As behavioral economist Mark Wilhelm of Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis pointed out, most people could quickly tell you how much they paid in taxes last year but few could put a dollar amount on how they benefited from government by, say, driving on interstate highways, taking drugs gleaned from federally funded medical research, or using inventions created by people educated in public schools.

There is one interesting piece of evidence showing that many rich people may not be selfish as much as willfully clueless, and therefore unable to make the cognitive link between need and resources. Last year, research at Duke and Harvard universities showed that regardless of political affiliation or income, Americans tended to think wealth distribution ought to be more equal.

The problem? Rich people wrongly believed it already was.

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Empathy brings you yammering scroungers, money brings you coke and hookers.

I know which one I'd rather have.
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This result appears to be based on US research. I wonder it there would be a similar finding in other countries. If a country's leading business newspaper reflects the culture of its business leaders, results might not be the same in the UK and Australia as in the US.

The Wall Street Journal's op-ed pages espouse a loonie far-right libertarian philosophy, and did so long before Murdoch bought the paper. On the other hand, the Financial Times in the UK and The Australian Financial Review in Australia both stick to a grounded position consistent with a mixed economy. They may criticise government for doing things that they consider are not government's role, but equally criticise government for not doing things that they think are the government's role.

It is consistent with libertarianism to believe that people create their own futures, that the industrious prosper, that the lazy starve and that it is wrong for the State to extract taxes from the rich to provide help for the poor. This is also consistent with the findings reported in the OP. On the other hand the UK and Australia have strong traditions of providing government safety nets for those who are unemployed, poor or sick - although not as comprehensively as some continental European states.

I therefore surmise that if Keltner's surveys were conducted again in the UK or Australia, he would obtain somewhat different results.

As a further observation, there is a strong tradition in the US of very wealthy people making donations to public institutions. This does not happen to the same extent elsewhere and may be viewed as counter-evidence of absence of empathy among the rich. On the other hand it may simply be an outcome of libertarian philosophy: it is not governmet's job to fund Carnegie Hall, the New York Public Library or even the campaign budgets of US Senators. Therefore the rich will have to do it themselves.
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Taxes should be abolished so that scroungers will starve, and people with their snouts in the public trough should be put to the sword.
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This result appears to be based on US research. I wonder it there would be a similar finding in other countries. If a country's leading business newspaper reflects the culture of its business leaders, results might not be the same in the UK and Australia as in the US.
Interesting hypothesis. OTOH, it doesn't matter all that much. If the US plays a certain game a certain way, given their weight in the world economy, we are forced, to a greater or lesser extent, to align ourselves... Hence the collapsing social safety nets in mainland Europe...
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Empathy brings you yammering scroungers, money brings you coke and hookers.
There's more to empathy than charity - also the ability to correctly predict other people's emotional states, for example. So one of the ironies here is that those people who get paid for negotiating with their opposites on the golf course may actually be pretty poor negotiators.


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This result appears to be based on US research. I wonder it there would be a similar finding in other countries. If a country's leading business newspaper reflects the culture of its business leaders, results might not be the same in the UK and Australia as in the US.
I doubt it. For example, the old aristocracy also thought they were better people. I think this will apply to any ruling class pretty generally.

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As a further observation, there is a strong tradition in the US of very wealthy people making donations to public institutions. This does not happen to the same extent elsewhere and may be viewed as counter-evidence of absence of empathy among the rich.
It's also a means of reinforcing their own sense of how wonderful they are. Largesse is a classic heroic virtue.
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There's more to empathy than charity - also the ability to correctly predict other people's emotional states, for example. So one of the ironies here is that those people who get paid for negotiating with their opposites on the golf course may actually be pretty poor negotiators.
I think I've probably done this quote before: "What do you think the definition of 'empathy' is? Got that? Good. Now, what do you think the definition of 'sympathy' is? Jot it down on a scrap of paper if it helps you to fix it in your mind. Now go and look these two definitions up in the dictionary. I think you'll find that you've got them the wrong way round, that what you thought was empathy is really sympathy and vice versa."

It's from Will Self and I really like it. Fact is, even lots of people who should know better assume that the two go together.
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I think empathy is the ability to understand what's going on with people. Sympathy is the fact that you're accepting and generally feel positive towards people.

Let me now check the definitions.
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I mean, I could be wrong - I've never been rich after all. All I know is that whenever someone's telling me about their hysterectomy or their philosophy of business or how much they need a holiday and isn't it great that I live in the countryside, I'm thinking "if I was a billionnaire I'd be sitting on my yacht off Propriano alone right now".
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em·pa·thy   /ˈɛmpəθi/ Show Spelled[em-puh-thee] Show IPA
noun

1. the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.

sym·pa·thy   /ˈsɪmpəθi/ Show Spelled [sim-puh-thee] Show IPA noun, plural -thies, adjective
noun

1. harmony of or agreement in feeling, as between persons or on the part of one person with respect to another

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I think I had them the right way round. But, in any case, I don't get how mixing both together would relate to Contra's comment.

Although I am a bit surprised myself at the finding on empathy and rich people. Getting rich usually mean, at some point or other, being able to impose your will on people. I am not sure how you do that if your empathy is meaningfully lower than the average.

I guess we should also qualify what we call 'rich' in these studies - A $100k salary, nice as it is doesn't qualify...
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