They MAY have good relationships, and they MAY not, but the RIGHT to pursue foxes across all land disregarded that. And hence it was used as a semi-legal way to intimidate and harass, and that is why the whole thing is is permeated with hostility for the aristocracy.

As for the criminal damage, even as recently as the 50's say I wouldn't have bet on a private person being able to get justice for a charge laid against the great and the good. But even if such justice were perfect, it wouldn't ameliorate all the resentment of centuries over night.

Well I'm not going to spoil someone's fun out of bitterness about something that someone who enjoyed the same sport did years before I was even born. If that's the sort of thing you lot enjoy I can hardy stop you.

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Karma sucks huh?

Originally Posted by Zichao

Although personally I suspect that the best solution here would probably be to copy the Japanese industrial policy system...

Err... Apart from their export sector, they're inefficient, corrupt and, well, broke as well. Japan is definitely not the solution here...

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Real GDP growth rate 2010 (Japan): 3.9%
Real GDP growth rate 2010 (UK): 1.3%

Just saying, like.

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C'mon, that's disingenious. What about the past 20 years?



Or the fact that they've borrowed to the hilt to keep things going (from their own people instead of China so that's better but not by much)...



And I am on the record saying that Japan is actually less worse than it looks because of its stagnating population but, c'mon, they are not exactly what you'd call role-models. Not to mention that they depend on exports doing well. And we can't all do that.

So sorry but it's still a resounding 'No'.

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It seems like that table ends in 2007. We shall just have to presume that in subsequent years US GDP followed much the same course.

But yeah, circumstances are changing right now. With scarcer resources we're going to need to go back to a more centralised model. Japan's basically been on a total war footing for the past 80 years (the only ifference being that they had to stop flogging opium to the Manchurians...) - you can't get more central than that.

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Originally Posted by Zichao

With scarcer resources...

I'd like a precise run on that. Oil is often mentioned and fair enough although no one knows for sure how things are going to go in terms of actual energy production. Water is also mentioned but, like food, it seems to me there's many variables, notably how much meat we consume. And, if markets do their jobs, rising meat prices will force people to undo their recent changes and resume consuming less of it. Similarly, when it comes to food, the USA simply changing their corn-ethanol stuff would be a game changer, iirc. Rare earth metals, I know next to nothing about.

There's clearly a lot of people on Earth and, tbh, more than I am comfortable with, given what I am being told about environment and resources. But, at the same time, I am tempted to point out that a lot of behavioural changes can occur, alterating the picture on commodities.

And it still doesn't change the fact that Japan companies relied on exports to repair their fucked up balance sheets and we can't all do that...

Being more like Japan is not going to be a solution.

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