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Old 15-01-11, 12:21 PM
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Default Beck's Incendiary Rhetoric Has Motivated Threats, Assassination Attempts

During an interview on MSNBC's Hardball, Media Matters President and CEO David Brock accused Glenn Beck of being "responsible for three thwarted assassination attempts this year." Indeed, in each of the three examples Brock cited -- Gregory Giusti, Charles Wilson, and Byron Williams -- the incendiary and often violent rhetoric spewed by the Fox News host and elsewhere on the network was said to be a motivating factor, if not the inspiring factor, in the men's actions.

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BROCK: But this is not street theater, as you know. I mean, Glenn Beck himself has been responsible for three thwarted assassination attempts this year, and Sarah Palin hasn't condemned that.

MATTHEWS: How is he responsible for them?

BROCK: Well, you want to know what they are?

MATTHEWS: You said it.

BROCK: Yeah, sure. So, he burned Nancy Pelosi in effigy on his set. He tried to poison her with a chalice, OK? Some weeks later, somebody tried to firebomb Nancy Pelosi's house. That guy's mother went on television and said he gets all of his ideas from Fox News. Do you know about Senator Patty Murray and the death threat that she got?

MATTHEWS: No, go ahead.

BROCK: OK. It's recorded -- the guy says after the health care vote. He says you have a target on your back and I can accomplish what I want to accomplish with one bullet. Now he's tried, convicted, and in the sentencing phase, his cousin writes in for leniency, and she describes in a very chilling memo -- it's on our website -- that he was slowly drawn into Glenn Beck's world. And she portrays the guy, the attempted assassin, Charlie Wilson, as a victim of Beck.

And number three, which you probably do know about, this liberal foundation in San Francisco was targeted by a gunman, Byron Williams, in June. The shooter gave jailhouse interviews, and we published them, and he says Glenn Beck is this schoolteacher on television and points to specific episodes of the Glenn Beck show that inspired him do it.

Full (long) article here - Beck's Incendiary Rhetoric Has Motivated Threats, Assassination Attempts | Media Matters for America


Its quite hypocritical for people on the Right who make their money doing this to deny that words can influence people, but when a Muslim shoots up an army base, or tries to blow up a plane they're quick to accept that they were influenced by radical clerics and a religion of hate... they weren't crazy people, but the guy in AZ sure was. Go figure.
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Old 15-01-11, 01:10 PM
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Arizona shooting: Jared Loughner 'posed with gun in women's underwear' - Telegraph

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And in a separate development, a Tucson college made public the home-made video - in which a rambling Loughner referred to a "genocide school" and "torture" of students - for which he was suspended in September.

The police timeline revealed how Loughner spent the final hours before the rampage on the morning of Jan 8. Shortly before midnight, he dropped off a roll of 35mm film to be developed at a Walgreen's chemist store in the same Tucson shopping mall to which he returned to kill a few hours later.

At about 12.30am Loughner, 22, who lived at home with his parents, checked into a budget motel and the electronic room key system reveals that he spent the night coming and going.

At 2.19 am he returned to the Walgreen's to retrieve the photographs, which police say included the images of him with the underwear and weapon.

A few minutes later, he bought a doughnut and energy bars at a petrol station and then at 4.12am posted a note on his page on the MySpace social networking page. It was titled "Goodbye friends" and accompanied by an image of the gun from the newly developed photos.

He made further purchases at all-night stores at 6.12am and 6.21am and at 7.04am attempted to purchase ammunition at a Wal-mart but became frustrated at the service and left. Twenty-three minutes and across town, he visited another Wal-mart where he bought bullet clips and a backpack-style nappy bag.

Just after he left the store, he was stopped by a law enforcement officer for running a red traffic light but let go with a warning. He then returned home, had an argument with his father and ran off on foot, carrying the black bag.

At some stage Loughner discarded the bag in a dry river bed near his home where it was found, with several more ammunition clips, late last week - prompting speculation that he had stashed it as a back-up in case he escaped the Saturday rampage and had the chance to launch another attack.

At 9.41am, he took a taxi from another petrol station to the Safeway store where Giffords aides were making the final preparations for her "Congress on your Corner" public forum starting at 10am. The cab arrived 13 minutes later and the driver accompanied Lougher into the Safeway to get change for the fare.

At 10,10am, Loughner pushed to the front of the line, trained his Glock on Miss Giffords and opened fire, before turning the weapon on the others gathered there that morning. Emergency calls started to pour into the sheriff's department at 10.11am.

Further light was thrown on Loughner's unhinged condition with the release by Pima Community College of the video that prompted campus authorities to suspend him in September.

Loughner posted the video on YouTube but it has since been removed that website. It was released by the college following a public records request by the Los Angeles Times.

The video - entitled "Pima Community College School - Genocide/Scam - Free Education - Broken United States Constitution" - was recorded by Loughner at night on the campus a few days after he was removed by a college police officer from a biology class for disruptive behaviour.

In his narration, Loughner makes statements such as "We are examining the torture of students"; "This is genocide in America"; "The war that we are in right now is currently illegal under the Constitution"; "This is my genocide school, where I'm going to be homeless because of this school"; "I haven't forgotten the teacher that gave me a B for freedom of speech"; "This is Pima Community College, one of the biggest scams in America"; and "If the student is unable to locate the external universe, the student is unable to locate the internal universe".

He ends it: "Thank you... This is Jared... from Pima College."

Meanwhile, The Daily Beast website reported that Loughner was strongly influenced by a conspiracy documentary called Zeitgeist. The film promotes the idea that a secretive international banking cabal controls the worlds and is aiming to introduce a global currency to cement that domination.
When do we get to see the underwear shots?
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I don't get why youtube are such twits and pull a video like that.

Oh well, i'm sure it'll pop up again somewhere.

In the meantime maybe this will hold you over... (not the actual guy)

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"The film promotes the idea that a secretive international banking cabal controls the worlds..."

Wow! I wish someone in this international banking cabal would let me in. I am tired of working for a living and since they control worlds, surely, they could spare one for me...
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AIS, that picture is all kinds of wrong!
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