Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais

No more than I would say that leaving your home open was being uncareful. The thief would still be responsible for the theft.

And if the dominant response to a burglary was "you should have locked your door" that would be a valid comparison.

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It's more to do with the recognition of the fact that men's behaviour is unlikely to shift right now - by this Friday night.

And as long as keep pushing the trope that women bring it on themselves, then men's behaviour never will change becuase it is continually being excused.

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Girls never talk to each others in your school? And this might be SA specific. It wouldn't have fly in my high school

Irt didn't "fly" it just didn't get him into official kinds of trouble.

Originally Posted by contracycle

And if the dominant response to a burglary was "you should have locked your door" that would be a valid comparison.

It's not because no one leave its door open...

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And as long as keep pushing the trope that women bring it on themselves, then men's behaviour never will change because it is continually being excused.

And not only am I not pushing that trope but men's behaviour has changed drastically over the last centuries. We're just not (yet, hopefully) at the point at which ALL of them, with no exception, would turn down the opportunity to abuse a passed-out woman...

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It didn't "fly" it just didn't get him into official kinds of trouble.

What I meant is that I suspect girls in my highschool would have shrieked, which may have been enough to get an adult involved and/or one of them at least would eventually have made some sort of official complain...

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It would have worked at my school - maybe it's an Anglo-Saxon thing.

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