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Old 17-12-10, 03:00 PM
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And that would help... how?

Higher ed. is nearly free across most of Continental Western Europe, afaik. Students still want some returns for the years of delayed income...
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Old 17-12-10, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais View Post
And that would help... how?
I've already explained this, and the reason is right there in the bit of the article I just quoted:

And many of them bear the inflated expectations of their parents, who emptied their bank accounts to buy them the good life that a higher education is presumed to guarantee

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Higher ed. is nearly free across most of Continental Western Europe, afaik. Students still want some returns for the years of delayed income...
I've already said I think people should be paid to study.
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Old 18-12-10, 08:59 AM
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Then why would anyone ever work?
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Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais View Post
Then why would anyone ever work?
Becuuse otherwise there won;t be any like, food on the table? And becuase work is, or at least can bem a satuisfying form of self-expression?
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Old 18-12-10, 06:20 PM
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Because otherwise there won't be any like, food on the table?
If they're paid, why would there be no food on the table?

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Right. It's well known that most productive work available is a satisfying form of self-expression... I mean, yes, it can be - But it's pretty damn rare.
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Old 20-12-10, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais View Post
If they're paid, why would there be no food on the table?
Shrug, I dunno, you the one who thinks no-one will work.

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Right. It's well known that most productive work available is a satisfying form of self-expression... I mean, yes, it can be - But it's pretty damn rare.
I don't know anyone who doesn't feel more fulfilled and in control of their destinies as worker, however shitty it might be, then they did as a student.
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Old 22-12-10, 11:14 AM
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Shrug, I dunno, you the one who thinks no-one will work.
Ah well, I kinda assume that someone would still work somewhere but you're technically right - If everybody is paid to study, no work will get done and the money will be useless...

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I don't know anyone who doesn't feel more fulfilled and in control of their destinies as worker, however shitty it might be, then they did as a student.
Would that be because they are able to generate an income for themselves while they were financially struggling while studying? Why, I think that might be that.

But if studying is paying a safe and nice salary, I am pretty sure people would adapt.
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Old 22-12-10, 12:38 PM
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Ah well, I kinda assume that someone would still work somewhere but you're technically right - If everybody is paid to study, no work will get done and the money will be useless...
Thats your exegaration, don;t look to me for validation.

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Would that be because they are able to generate an income for themselves while they were financially struggling while studying? Why, I think that might be that.
No. It's about responsibility and control, the sense of being an active agent in the world instead of being carried along by it.
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