Spain 'orgasm' video criticised by politicians

Spanish politicians have criticised a video by the Young Socialists in Catalonia in which a woman simulates an orgasm while casting her vote.

Both Socialist and opposition politicians have attacked the campaign video.

The equality minister called it "misleading" advertising.

In the video the young woman gets increasingly excited as she votes for the Socialist Party in this month's regional elections in Catalonia.

It concludes with the phrase, "Voting is a pleasure", after she puts her voting slip in the ballot box.

The leader of the conservative opposition Popular Party of Catalonia, Alicia Sanchez-Camacho, said the video was an "attack on the dignity of women".

The health minister, Leire Pajin, who is a Socialist, called on all parties to show respect for women and to act responsibly.

The Socialist equality minister, Bibiana Aido, said of the video: "If it was true, electoral participation would go up greatly, but I think we are dealing with a misleading advert."

'Crude' video

But the Socialist Party of Catalonia 's leader, Jose Montilla, who is standing for re-election, said, "If it encourages people to vote, it's a good thing".

However, speaking in a TV interview he appeared surprised to learn that it was a video by the youth wing of his own party.

A spokesman for the conservative CiU party, Josep Antoni Duran Lleida, said that the "crude" video would damage participation.

The leader of the Green coalition in Catalonia, Joan Herrera, said it would be "very difficult to reach orgasm voting for any of the candidates, myself included".

It is not the first controversial video to be brought out by a Catalan party ahead of the 28 November elections.

An anti-racism group, SOS Racismo, says it has complained to the public prosecutor about a video game by the Popular Party, in which Alicia Sanchez-Camacho takes on the guise of film and video game heroine Lara Croft to fight illegal immigrants and pro-independence Catalans.

The game was removed from the party's website hours after its launch, with the PP saying the developer did not follow instructions properly.

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Sigh. Conservatoves worried about "dignity", how predictable.

Anyway this:
In the video the young woman gets increasingly excited as she votes for the Socialist Party in this month's regional elections in Catalonia.
... isn't true; it doesn't show who she votes for, only that she votes.

Originally Posted by contracycle

The leader of the Green coalition in Catalonia, Joan Herrera, said it would be "very difficult to reach orgasm voting for any of the candidates, myself included".

bet you a nickle that if everyone voted for him, he'd have one......

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Yes, conservatives responding predictably, to young socialists flaunting convention and delighting in sexual display, predictably. Typical both times.

Before and over ideological differences, the left and right differ in temperment.

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You would only expect them to be different if you held to the faulty view the some people and not others are "ideological" and that this determines whether their views are valid or not. Which of course is just a case of special pleading.

Sure their positions are consistent; the left, being Materialist, takes joy in their humanity including sexuality, while the right regards it as a vale of tears since we were expelled from Eden.

And since we are discussing brutally sexist advertising in another thread, this shows that it is perfectly feasible to produce adverts that reference female sexuality without casting women as objects that exist for male interests. Which of course duly scandalises the right, who are conversely quite comfortable with the subjection of women.

Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.

Nope, I expect them to be different based on observation, of examples cutting across across time, place, and culture. Details of course vary, but the themes of conflict between the conservative and liberal temperment recur. A person's age, of course, often influences whether or not one views the world as a place characterized by loss and the danger of loss, the view that informs the myth of expulsion from Eden.

As for male interests, do you care to bet on the gender of the person who created that ad?

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Originally Posted by contracycle

Sure their positions are consistent; the left, being Materialist, takes joy in their humanity including sexuality, while the right regards it as a vale of tears since we were expelled from Eden.

Being somewhere in the middle I just masturbate furiously and feel obscurely guilty afterwards.

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And since we are discussing brutally sexist advertising in another thread, this shows that it is perfectly feasible to produce adverts that reference female sexuality without casting women as objects that exist for male interests.

Trust me on this, it isn't the women viewers crossing their fingers that this one'll come up in every break in CSI:Miami.

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Originally Posted by Zichao

Being somewhere in the middle I just masturbate furiously and feel obscurely guilty afterwards.

probably because of the fury......

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Nope, I expect them to be different based on observation, of examples cutting across across time, place, and culture.

But you don't think that, having made such observations, the conclusions you draw might fall into established camps? Everything has to be invented anew, in ignorance of anything anyone has thought before?

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Details of course vary, but the themes of conflict between the conservative and liberal temperment recur.

Yes, becuase they are a fundamental fissure in class-divided society.

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As for male interests, do you care to bet on the gender of the person who created that ad?

I have no idea. FWIW, in my experience women are sightly over-represented in socialist organisaitons. Or perhaps just accurately represented considering the slight numerical imabalance.

Similarly...

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Trust me on this, it isn't the women viewers crossing their fingers that this one'll come up in every break in CSI:Miami.

Well, rather like your presumption that people find discussion of rape erotic, I find your expectations of what men are aroused by a little weird. I think this add is just Funny. Similarly, I don't think the audience fo the Jizz In My Pants video is going to be horny women.

But even without that, my point remains; the women in the gang rape ads are objectified and depersonalised, their experience of or please in the sexual act is totally irrelevant. This ad casts as the woman as the primary and actualised agent, not merely a thing for the pleasing of others.

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Well, rather like your presumption that people find discussion of rape erotic

Vile est quod licet. I know that's the only reason I bother discussing it.

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, I find your expectations of what men are aroused by a little weird. I think this add is just Funny. Similarly, I don't think the audience fo the Jizz In My Pants video is going to be horny women.

Well okay, my connection here means that I can't actually watch the video. I just assumed from the commentaries that it was supposed to be sexy.

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But even without that, my point remains; the women in the gang rape ads are objectified and depersonalised, their experience of or please in the sexual act is totally irrelevant. This ad casts as the woman as the primary and actualised agent, not merely a thing for the pleasing of others.

She looks like she's enjoying it to me.

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She is not being gang raped. She is having a threesome.

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