The Illustrated Road to Serfdom

and before you laugh... remember the guys protesting national healthcare, terrified of national death panels...

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The most you should say is "how some Americans think." As it stands, you are making a category mistake (ascribing thinking to 'America,'), leading to bigoted belief.

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BTW, Hayek of course was Austrian, and the book from which that pamphlet was made was first published in England.

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Oh, and the 'Tea Parties' are predicted by Hayek's sceneario. The important thing is not the 'anti-plan' line. The important thing is the anger at the 'internal enemies' and the impulse to 'enforce' unity.

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odd.....I looked through it and came to the conclusion that we should be grateful American avoided all that.....

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I have to say that:

1- I am not sure how illustrative this is of Hayek's work/road to serfdom book
2- If it is illustrative, it is mostly wrong - Fascism did not rise on the failed efforts of WWI "planners"... Nor did Communism.
3- And, thirdly, I got to agree with PMP. I certainly think America got pretty lucky in terms of totalitarian ideologies seizing gvt...

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Oh, a great current of opinion in Germany was that a firm hand was needed to produce national unity. Calling the chaos-makers 'planners' is pretty ideological, though, I'll give you that.

As for three, so far. But the trick is to stay 'lucky.'

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Oh, a great current of opinion in Germany was that a firm hand was needed to produce national unity.

Sure. But that opinion did not occur through a bunch of "war planners" (from WWI) trying to maintain on-going war planning. That's not just being ideological. That's being wrong.

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As for three, so far. But the trick is to stay 'lucky.'

Well, sure. But I believe that modern western democracies wouldn't accept a fascism as crude as the one that swept some European countries in the 30s.

As someone said, if fascism ever seizes America, they will call it anti-fascism and they will call their order Liberty...

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

...you are making a category mistake (ascribing thinking to 'America,')

... so i am. thanks ben.

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Oh, and the 'Tea Parties' are predicted by Hayek's sceneario. The important thing is not the 'anti-plan' line. The important thing is the anger at the 'internal enemies' and the impulse to 'enforce' unity.

That seems a misunderstanding to me. Surely the very point of Hayeks thesis (as porteayed, here, anyway, and as popularly cited) is that the "plan line" is important, that it is planning itself that provokes response, and hence it is a Bad Thing (tm).