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Old 07-02-11, 06:02 PM
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From the Times of India

Bush fears arrest, scraps Swiss visit

PTI, Feb 7, 2011, 08.03am IST


WASHINGTON: Former US President George W Bush has reportedly cancelled a visit to Switzerland amid concerns that he could be arrested for allegedly authorising the torture of prisoners.

The former American president was due to speak at a charity gala, making the keynote speech at Keren Hayesod's annual dinner in the city of Geneva on February 12.

Human rights groups in the country have been calling for the Swiss government to arrest Bush over allegations he had ordered the torture of suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay. Court officials have said criminal complaints against Bush have been lodged in Geneva.
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He couldn't run that risk. He doesn't own a chalet in Gstaad.
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and good luck on getting Obama to demand his release....
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Awesome.

Now he can go and hang out with that other war criminal, Henry Kissinger.

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I think Bush is not the only one who needs to think twice before traveling to Europe any time soon. The same goes for Cheney and Rumsfeld. After all, they were really the architects of the stupid "war on terror" and of the Guantánamo debacle. Bush was only the BIIC (bumbling idiot in charge).
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Who's not a war criminal these days?
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Pity no one thought of this when he was in power - sure it's not very diplomatic but you'd save $$$ in security costs and annoyance.
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Who's not a war criminal these days?
Well, that's a good point. Has Obama finally closed Guantanamo or is it still open, due to 'technical' issues?
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Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais View Post
Well, that's a good point. Has Obama finally closed Guantánamo or is it still open, due to 'technical' issues?
That is not exactly the same thing. Obama inherited Guantánamo. As far as I am aware of, Obama has not placed a single new prisoner at that location. He wasn't able to close Guantánamo yet, because he doesn't know where to put the remaining inmates. He can't send them back to where they came from, because there they would be immediately rearrested and treated worse. Any country in the world that is willing to take in one or the other of these inmates is most welcome to do so ... and some countries have done that, but there are still unclaimed prisoners left in Guantánamo.

In my view, the "you-broke-it-you-own-it" rule should be applied, i.e., the U.S. should take the remaining inmates in, and either try them on U.S. ground or, if the U.S. authorities can't put a case together, let them free.
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Originally Posted by Francois Cellier View Post
That is not exactly the same thing. Obama inherited Guantánamo. As far as I am aware of, Obama has not placed a single new prisoner at that location.
... but, in general, has kept doing a lot of what GWB was doing wrt "war on terror"...

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He can't send them back to where they came from, because there they would be immediately rearrested and treated worse (...) or, if the U.S. authorities can't put a case together, let them free.
How is that not the same thing? Send them back home with some damage money and be done with it. Why would they be re-arrested per se? And what would the world say about that? Unfairly sent to Guantanamo, finally released, sent back to Pakistan and, there, arrested again - still on no grounds!

It's not like we like to criticise Pakistan or anyone in the area that does the "war on terror" dirty work but I think people would get pissed off at this...

Beside which, I forgot to add, I am not sure the Geneva Convention or whatever, cares about that kind of shaded distinction... If you're keeping prisoners unfairly and stuff, it's probably enough to make you an accomplice of war crimes...
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