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Old 01-07-10, 01:44 PM
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Which of course is precisely what Marxism has done right from it's earliest days. The whole point of Marx's thesis was a refinement of revolutionary theory of preceeding movements, and his own was refined by Lenin.
That's producing other designs, not better ones.
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Originally Posted by Zichao View Post
That's producing other designs, not better ones.
Your implication that is static, though, as been dealt with.

I see little wrong with a model that, in the Russian Rev, achieved the highest pinnacle of human liberty to date.
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And then killed everyone.
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Sigh, we've been through this before, so many times.

Firstly, many of those claims are grossly exagerated and blatant propaganda; and secondly, you're conveniently ignoring the massive and daily mounting death toll of capitalism. Pluck out the log from your own eye, etc.
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Pathetic.

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The Russian revolution didn't stop that either.
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The Russian revolution didn't stop that either.
At least it made an effort, rather than revelling in and profiting from the low price of labour produced by desperation.

Capitalism needs starvation. It needs poverty and misery. They are an inextricable part of the system.
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The effort didn't work. Try again.
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Oh, we certainly will.
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