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Old 30-11-11, 08:26 AM
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The finding by the two forensic psychiatrists will help determine whether Breivik is sentenced to prison or psychiatric care. Prosecutor Svein Holden says the report shows Breivik was "psychotic" during the attack.

If that assessment is upheld by the court then Breivik cannot be sentenced to prison for the attacks.

"The conclusion is ... is that he is insane," Holden told a news conference. "He lives in his own delusional universe and his thoughts and acts are governed by this universe."

The two psychiatrists, Synne Serheim and Torgeir Husby, delivered their finding to the Oslo district court on Tuesday morning.

"We have no doubt when it comes to our conclusions," Husby told reporters as he submitted the report.

"It was a lot of work, demanding," Husby said, adding: "He has cooperated well."

Breivik, 32, was suffering from a "psychosis" – a mental state that could alter his judgment leading up to and at the time of the attacks, VG writes.

Their report still needs to be examined by a legal medical commission to ensure that it fulfils all the professional requirements.

The court will ultimately determine whether Breivik can be held accountable for his actions, but it is common practice in Norway for courts to follow expert recommendations.

Breivik has admitted setting off a car bomb outside the government offices in Oslo on July 22, killing eight people, before going on a shooting rampage on the nearby island of Utoya where the ruling Labour Party's youth wing was hosting a summer camp.

Sixty-nine people, mostly teens, died in the shooting massacre and police have said they found 186 empty shell casings strewn around the island.

In a manifesto he published on the internet just before the attacks, Breivik said he was on a "crusade" against Islam and professed his hatred for Western-style democracy, saying it had spawned the multicultural society he loathed.

Anders Behring Breivik 'not accountable for attacks' - Telegraph
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Old 30-11-11, 08:29 AM
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This is very restrained and lovely and Scandinavian of them, isn't it? In the UK he'd be subject to the Hindley exception in order not to make the Home Secretary look bad.
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Anders Breivik's hatred does not come from a delusional mind | Aslak Sira Myhre | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

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As the terrorist of Oslo is declared insane, the Norwegian faith in our judicial system is challenged. On Tuesday, psychiatrists came to the conclusion that Anders Breivik was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia when he killed 77 people in Norway this July. The news has come as a shock to many, yet the diagnosis is in many ways a logical consequence of various developments over the last month.


What originally seemed to be an obvious case of political terrorism has increasingly been treated as a case of individual madness. After the local elections in September, media coverage and public debate followed two diverging trails. One of these focused criticism not on Breivik or any of his political compatriots on the Islamophobic right, but on local and national police, and the Norwegian political authorities. This approach came to a preliminary conclusion when the minister of justice more or less voluntarily left his position and was applauded by the opposition for "taking responsibility" – as if he, or the government, were primarily to blame for the terror, not the terrorist himself.


The second approach, led by the media, has shifted attention from Breivik's political ideas and deeds to his personal psyche. Readers of Norwegian newspapers have delved into his childhood, relation to family, lack of a sexual life and social disorders. Two days before the report from the psychiatric commission was released, Norway's largest newspaper published a full front page story with a picture of a child's bicycle, speculating that Breivik may have been sexually abused in his childhood. The criminal case was turned into psychology even before the psychiatric report was released. And as a consequence, our perspective moved from Utøya, from the acts of terror and the ideas behind them, to Breivik's personal history.


His political madness, a political paranoia he shares with extremist bloggers, organisations and politicians all over Europe, has been reduced to clinical madness, now with the medical title "schizophrenic paranoia". It has been claimed that this diagnosis could be used to brand all his fellow extremists insane as well, but I think that this is unlikely. On the contrary, many internet extremists will continue to claim that the madness is exactly what distinguishes them from Breivik. He might share some of their views, but they don't share his diagnosis. As one of the 157 lawyers representing the victims said: "Perhaps it is easier to live knowing that this was just the deed of a sick person."


After the second world war, Norwegian society showed a similar response to the Nazi sympathies of Nobel laureate Knut Hamsun. He was declared insane to avoid confronting how deep into society the xenophobic ideology went. I fear that Breivik's diagnosis will serve the same purpose, moving the focus away from the ideas he has spearheaded. These are ideas of which some are echoed in many parts of Norwegian society, and not just on the margins.


At the moment, the conclusion of the psychiatric experts has little support among Norwegians. Mainly because it might take away the Norwegian society's need for revenge. The idea that Breivik might not be punished by jail, but "only" detention in a closed hospital ward challenges our idea of justice. His deliberate planning and tedious carrying out of the atrocities challenges our idea of severe mental illness. And perhaps worst of all, the possibility that he might – unlikely as it is – one day be let out on the streets again is an offence to the families and friends of the victims and the survivors, and thus to all of us.


I believe that this need for revenge is justified. The murders in Oslo and at Utøya has an evil and political character not seen in Norway since the war, and must be treated as such – as something extraordinary.


But in the end I don't think the question of jail, detention or forced psychiatric care will create lasting political disturbance or lack of faith in Norway's judicial system. There seems to be an agreement across political boundaries that the court must rule by its laws, and that this preliminary conclusion will be thoroughly checked. We will accept the verdict as long as it is for life. But if he is ever set free, even just for a short leave, there will be a riot. The diagnosis will be accepted as long as he is locked up for life.


The long-term political consequences of the psychiatric report might be more severe. This diagnosis may be the one thing that puts the terror of Oslo in the category of school massacres and Charles Manson, instead of placing it where it belongs – as the last in a long series of violent acts perpetrated by the extreme political right.


As most Norwegians, I do not have the medical skills to support or overrule the verdict of a psychiatric commission. Either way, the paranoia and the crimes of Anders Breivik are his own, but his hatred does not come from a delusional mind. We recognise it as the white man's hatred that we have known for a century. His acts of terror mirror the views and expressions of a multitude of rightwing extremists. He is not alone in his madness.
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Old 02-12-11, 08:52 AM
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We can all remember where we were when we heard that Anders Breivik had gone to a summer camp on Utoya island in Norway, dressed as a police officer, and shot and killed 69 people, mainly teenagers. Psychologists call this a flashbulb memory: although it may not have exceptional detail, the memory has a vividness that derives from the emotional shock around it.

As bystanders to this tragedy, we heard one question repeatedly voiced as we sat glued to our TV screens: why? If we had asked Breivik why he murdered all those young people, he would have said it was to draw attention to his manifesto aimed at saving Europe from the Muslims. Indeed he emailed his deeply disturbing "2083: A European Declaration of Independence", to more than a thousand people 90 minutes before he bombed the government buildings in Oslo and just before he went out and shot all those people on the island camp.

For Breivik, the killings were part of his carefully planned political project. He claimed to have been working on the plan for nine years, calculating and implementing the financial and technical details – and 2083 is the year in his utopian vision when Europe was to finally be a Muslim-free zone. His manifesto is explicitly anti-multicultural.

If we could ask the court psychiatrists why Breivik murdered children, they would, according to this week's reports, say it is because he had paranoid schizophrenia. This diagnosis, if confirmed by independent clinicians, has surprised some people following the case because the 1,518 pages of Breivik's manifesto do not appear to be the incoherent output of "thought disorder", but instead read like a rather linear, carefully crafted tome. It is the work of a man with a single vision, a single belief that he wishes to prove to the world in exhaustive detail, and in a logical fashion.

That most people would find his reasoning deeply offensive, and his actions on 22 July monstrously horrendous, is a separate issue. The question remains whether a man who is so cold and calculating in executing his logical plan is sane or, as the court psychiatrists have suggested, insane. If this is confirmed, his thoughts and murderous actions are to be viewed as the products of a mental illness, requiring treatment in a hospital rather than punishment in a prison.

On 29 July, a week after the crime, I was asked by the Norwegian newspaper Morgenbladet for my reaction, as I had just published a book arguing that acts of human cruelty must by definition entail a loss of "affective" empathy.

Empathy divides into at least two components: "cognitive" and "affective". Cognitive empathy is the drive to identify someone else's thoughts and feelings, being able to put yourself into their shoes to imagine what is in their mind. Affective empathy, in contrast, is the drive to respond to someone else's thoughts and feelings with an appropriate emotion. People with autism typically have difficulties with the cognitive component (they have trouble inferring what other people might think or feel), but have intact affective empathy (it upsets them to hear of others suffering). So Breivik is unlikely to have autism.

In contrast, those with antisocial personality disorder (including psychopaths) typically have the opposite profile: they have no trouble reading other people's thoughts and feelings (intact cognitive empathy) but other people's suffering is of no concern to them.

It is not for me to speculate on Breivik's diagnosis, and in some ways the precise formulation is of secondary importance. The more important issue is to understand what factors can lead to empathy erosion.

Decades of research underscore the importance both of early childhood emotional experience and of genetic factors that have far-reaching effects on an adult's empathy levels. Advances in neuroscience now enable us to delineate the "empathy circuit" (a network of brain regions) with much more precision. Low affective empathy is necessary to explain Breivik's behaviour. But low affective empathy is not sufficient to explain such cruelty, because there are people with low affective empathy who do not go on to commit such acts.

Low affective empathy is the precondition for cruelty, interacting with other factors. In Breivik's case, his deeply held (and frightening) ideological convictions may have been one extra ingredient in the deadly mix.

In the 29 July issue of Morgenbladet, I wrote that the 32-year-old Breivik appeared to have many parallels with the young Hitler. At 8.30pm on 8 November 1923, Hitler (then aged 34) burst into the largest beer hall in Munich, fired a shot into the ceiling and jumped on a chair, yelling: "The national revolution has broken out!" Breivik also thought he was starting a revolution. When arrested, Hitler wanted to use the trial to make political speeches, just as Breivik hoped to do.

Sent to prison for five years, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, a long ideological justification for his racist actions that also has many parallels with Breivik's manifesto. Hitler's diatribe against the "Jewification" of Europe parallels Breivik's diatribe against the "Islamification" of Europe. Both were men convinced by the rightness of their beliefs; both were willing to sacrifice people to achieve their ends.

Our hearts go out to the families and friends of Breivik's victims, whose grief must be as unimaginably painful today as it was on 22 July.

Anders Breivik: cold and calculating, yes ? but insane? | Simon Baron-Cohen | Comment is free | The Guardian
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Really? We're supposed to remember where we were? I think there are too many of these events, who the hell is supposed to remember where they were when Kennedy and Diana died, and during the moon landings and the Columbine shootings and any number of natural disasters? It's getting ridiculous; I panic briefly every time I have to type my PIN code, how am I supposed to remember tragedies that don't even involve me?

22nd July. I guess I was probably at the office if he did it during the day time, although my contract was nearly over so there's a good chance that I was skyving off in a café somewhere. Perhaps I have incipient alzheimers, perhaps I'm just an empathyless psycho.
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With all due respect to the victims, that's just not a moment of enough significance outside of Norway to matter.

9/11 or the Moon landing is more like it. It was televised, for a start.
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As to making Behring "insane", it can only be the result of stretching the meaning of "insane" to mean "whatever the majority feels is 'depraved'/'monstrous'/unusual/weird/out of norm".

I am no psychiatrist and so I am ill-placed to really comment but I think such a definition sucks. It's too flexible.

As the guy kind of hint at, would you call Hitler "insane", in a clinical sense? He certainly didn't seem to be so to me...

I like the split between cognitive and emotive empathy, though. But I thought the definition of empathy was mostly implying the cognitive sense and only recent usage tended to imply 'emotive' empathy. It used to be called "sympathy", iirc?
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Yeah, I totally disagree with this fad for declaring anyone insane who disagrees with the smug, middle-class majority, but I still admire the Swedes for sticking with it to the end.

Elsewhere we totally want to hear about childhood trauma and explosive episodes, unless public opinion's genuinely in a snit, in which case we revert to hang-'em-and-flog-'em. At least the Swedes have the courage of their convictions.
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True enough. When I think those guys used to be the terror of Europe... I guess it's true that if all your trouble makers and badasses emigrate, you're left with softy softies...
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Dr Randi Rosenqvist linked Breivik's "deviant statements" to his total absorption in a cult-like anti-Islamic movement based largely in the UK.

"I interpret his deviant statements as an expression of an extreme ideology, not as a psychotic view of reality," she writes.

"He has built a lot of his ideology on the British, or rather English, movement, and has not sought contact with Norwegians of the same ideology."

Torry Pedersen, editor of the Verdens Gang newspaper, decided to publish the full texts of four official psychiatric reports on Breivik this Sunday, despite a warning from police that frequent press leaks were harming the investigation.

The main details of the official report of court-appointed forensic psychiatrists, Synne Serheim and Torgeir Husby, which ruled that Mr Breivik was insane, were widely reported last month.
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But the three reports from Dr Rosenqvist for the Ila prison, where Breivik is being held, state he was not psychotic. Her report led the Olso court to order a further assessment on Friday.

She said that she believed that Breivik would only become difficult for prison authorities to manage if his world view began to crumble.

"If his view of the world ruptured or broke apart, its likely that he would become manic, psychotic, and suffer increased megalomania. He will become physically anxious or more demanding, he may stop sleeping normally and he might not be seen as calm or polite."

According to Dr Rosenqvist, the mass-killer compared his life in prison to a "kindergarten", where "he can ring on a bell to get snus [smokeless tobacco] or cigarettes."

He spends his time weight-training, reading a series of books on the history of different countries in the world, playing a computer game where he builds a city, and watching films on DVD.

Dr Rosenqvist notes Breivik's "humorous" reaction to learning that he had been classed as schizophrenic.

"I asked what he thought about the investigators' conclusions. He took these almost in a humorous way and said he didn't recognise himself at all," she writes.

At a meeting on Dec 19, Breivik told Dr Rosenqvist that he had no regrets about setting off a bomb that killed eight people in Oslo's government district, and then opening fire at the summer camp of the governing Labour Party's youth wing, killing another sixty-nine.

"He says that Norway was different before 22 July, and that he hoped that the conflicts in society were more clear now," she wrote. "He hoped that a revolution would come earlier. A revolution that we could win."

Anders Behring Breivik psychiatric report reveals 'kindergarten' prison life - Telegraph
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