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Old 10-01-11, 08:15 PM
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Will Spain Default Now?
by: Jason Cimpl January 10, 2011

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Ask anyone on the street if Europe is in trouble, and they’ll say “Yes!”

But ask them exactly why, and exactly how much trouble?

They might answer, “Because of debt problems ... and I’m not sure.”

That’s about the most information you’ll get from any mainstream media source. Most news stories about European debt problems will mention the problem, and then immediately quote a bunch of European central bankers and politicians about who’s to blame, and/or why it’s not really that big of a deal.

For instance, this Jan. 7 story about the “Euro Crisis” in The Wall Street Journal doesn’t give any specific information about which European countries owe what to whom.

For the record, I believe Europe is indeed in trouble. I think the actual, specific, verifiable numbers tell more of a tale than any politician or banker can -- because what the numbers tell us is that countries like Spain, Portugal, Italy and Ireland are broke. They’ll either have to default on their sovereign debt obligations, or Europe as a whole will have to crank the euro-printing press to create money out of thin air to pay for those obligations.

Today I’ll focus on Spain. They’re as close to insolvency as any country, and the numbers tell us why.

In 2011, Spain has to roll over €150 billion of debt -- but Spain’s GDP is only €1.051 trillion.

To put that €150 billion in perspective, that’s over €6,500 per every member of the Spanish work force. Or about €15 of every €100 of Spanish production.

That’s also above and beyond conservative estimates of a budget deficit of €94.5 billion in 2011.

Oh, I almost forgot: The banking sector in Spain is still unraveling. The credit-rating agency Moody’s predicts that in the best-case scenario, Spanish banks or “cajas” will need an additional €25 billion in bailout funds.

Moody’s worst-case scenario predicts that Spanish banks will require an additional €90 billion.

Right now, Spanish cajas are in the process of merging together. Officials believe that lumping cajas together into bigger institutions will make them more solvent. But as we all know, bigger piles of debt aren’t inherently safer. In fact, I’d argue that combining strong banks with weak ones is the exact opposite of what Spain should do if it wants the situation to get better.

It’s like Spain looked at its failing cajas, and seeing that they are, indeed, small enough to fail, decided that the solution was to make them merge together with other cajas to create bigger institutions that would be too big to fail. By now, we all realize that “too big to fail” is at best a political slogan that gives governments permission to bail out any politically expedient or important business or sector. At worse, it’s a logical fallacy that’s tying an anchor around the throats of responsible businesses and citizens.

Here’s what should happen: Weak banks should go under and take all bad inventory with them. Any salvageable portions of those weak banks will get scooped up by the solvent ones.

That’s how bankruptcy works.

Casting the lots of the solvent banks with the insolvent banks is bad news for the whole banking industry. Bailing out those banks with public funds just compounds the problem. Instead of being an isolated, compartmentalized default, Spain and Europe central bankers are turning the risk into a widespread phenomenon. They’re betting the entire solvency of Europe and the very existence of the euro on the idea that maybe, just maybe, they can paper this problem over.

If they’re wrong, everyone loses -- not just a handful of bad banks in Spain.
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They’ll either have to default on their sovereign debt obligations, or Europe as a whole will have to crank the euro-printing press to create money out of thin air to pay for those obligations.
Even Money bet: they'll crank the euro-printing press to create money out of thin air to pay for those obligations...

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Today I’ll focus on Spain.
Why? Once you include future commitments to the baby boomers, ALL western countries, including the US, the UK and Germany, are technically broke.

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Here’s what should happen: Weak banks should go under and take all bad inventory with them. Any salvageable portions of those weak banks will get scooped up by the solvent ones.
Which ones? If the guy is wrong and a domino effect takes place, there will be no solvent banks left.

Yes, he just said that the cajas are small enough to fail. I remember when they said the same thing about Lehman Brothers. I'd like a bit more details about these cajas obligations before playing russian roulette with the European and thus worldwide banking system...

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Casting the lots of the solvent banks with the insolvent banks is bad news for the whole banking industry.
True. But bad news is not necessarily the worst news...

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They’re betting the entire solvency of Europe and the very existence of the euro on the idea that maybe, just maybe, they can paper this problem over.
Yep. OTOH, it has worked for Japan so far. Although I've said elsewhere they got serious problems coming to them. But Japanese companies? I think their balance sheets are once again pretty healthy.

To quote: "In Japan, corporate demand for funds has actually turned negative since 1998. In other words, today's corporate sector in Japan is actually a net supplier of funds to both the banking system and capital markets to the tune of [yen] 30 trillion per year or 6 percent of GDP. They have become suppliers of funds because so many companies are paying down debt. They are paying down debt because the nationwide collapse in asset prices starting in the early 1990s left them with huge debt overhang. Even though their balance sheets may be under water, in most cases, their main line of business is still sound with healthy cash flow. [...] The companies, therefore, are using their healthy cash flow from their main lines of business to pay down debt in order to repair their balance sheets".

Corporate debt repayment: the real reason global interest rates are so low

We're seeing and we are going to continue seeing a lot of banks doing just that. Trying to run down their assets and keep on getting Central Banks cash in order to repair their own balance sheet - This is the essence of the Credit Crunch part of that crisis.

And, indeed, it is transforming a banking crisis into a sovereign one but 1- this is just us getting it sooner than otherwise, the boomers' entitlement schemes guaranteeing default in the future anyhow and 2- there never is a real difference between the banking system and the state. After all, without a working banking system, there is no modern state... Money is dual natured - both a private and a public good.

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Except, of course, they're not just a handful of bad banks. They're just dominoes with a chain of dominoes... Even GM failure would be less problematic than one of a mid-sized bank - in the present system...
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Portuguese Bailout Will Make Euro Crisis Worse: Matthew Lynn
By Matthew Lynn - Jan 18, 2011

Portuguese Bailout Will Make Euro Crisis Worse: Matthew Lynn - Bloomberg

New year, new crisis. No sooner had Europe’s bond traders, politicians and central bankers gotten back to their desks than it was time to begin tussling over the fate of a small economy on the periphery of Europe.

This time around, it’s Portugal. And yet the script seems very similar to the one played out already in Greece and Ireland. Bond yields surge. The government denies furiously there is any need for a bailout. French and German leaders rehash some of their lines about the importance of European solidarity. And the guys at the International Monetary Fund and the European Union pack their bags and check flight schedules.

Before you know it, the defiant words have vanished, and the bailout has begun.

And yet so far, most of the discussion has been about when Portugal gets rescued. There has been very little talk about a far more important question -- whether it should be.

In reality, it’s a terrible idea. It won’t stop the euro crisis spreading to the next country; the rescue mechanism is a mess; there’s no plan for getting countries out of the clutches of the EU and the IMF; and the obvious flaws in the packages are making the breakup of the euro area more likely. It would be better to admit that the EU made a huge mistake in bailing out Greece, and simply restructure Portuguese debt.

Tipping Point

No one can say how long the Portuguese government will hold out against pressure from the bond market. Yields soared at the start of last week. They have fallen slightly since then. Yesterday, 10-year Portuguese debt was yielding 6.6 percent. As a rule of thumb, 7 percent seems to be the tipping point. Maybe they can keep bond yields below that crucial level, but you wouldn’t bet your last bottle of port on it.

The real issue is whether it makes sense to assemble yet another rescue package, the third for a euro member in less than a year.

The answer is no.

Here’s why.

First, it won’t stop the contagion. Bailing out Greece didn’t stop the markets moving on to Ireland. Bailing out Ireland didn’t stop Portugal being attacked next. There’s no reason to think a Portuguese rescue will stop the markets moving on to Spain. The markets attack one country at a time because that is the easiest way to make some quick profits -- not because it is the only country at risk. As soon as one bailout is finished, the whole show just moves on to the next one.

Financial Hole

Second, the rescue mechanism is a mess. The interest rate charged to countries is punitive, making it harder for them to dig their way out of their financial hole. Ireland is paying 5.51 percent interest on the first tranche of money it received from the bailout package. The Greek government is paying about 5 percent on the money it is getting from the rest of Europe. That’s a lot more than the funds usually cost the lenders. The reason countries need rescuing is because they can’t afford to pay the interest on all the money they have borrowed. How can it make sense to charge them premium rates for yet more debt?

Third, there’s no plan for getting countries out of the rescue mechanism. Greek and Irish bond yields are still way above the euro-area averages, even after the bailouts. There is no sign of yields coming down. Nor is there any sign of their economies recovering. So how are they meant to get back to normal growth again? You shouldn’t start a war without an exit strategy. Likewise, you shouldn’t rescue a country without any idea how to get the markets back to functioning properly.

Greek Downgrade

Finally, all the flaws in the rescue mechanism make a breakup of the euro more likely. Investors aren’t stupid. They can see quite clearly that the EU and IMF medicine isn’t working. Only last week, Fitch Ratings downgraded Greek debt to junk. Greece’s economy shrank 4 percent in 2010, and will probably contract 3 percent this year, according to Fitch.

The rest of the world is recovering, but Greece is stuck in what could be a 10- or 20-year recession. How is the country supposed to bring its debts under control when it gets poorer every year? If that is what a “rescue” amounts to, it is hardly surprising investors keep betting against the euro.

It is already clear the EU made a mistake in bailing out Greece. It would have been better to simply let it default. As the old maxim has it: When you are in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. It would be better to let Portugal default, if necessary, then deal with the consequences of that.

The last thing the euro area needs is another failed rescue package that only ends up making the whole crisis even worse.

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The guy makes a lot of good points - I certainly cannot fault his 3 points remarks. But, OTOH, "dealing with the consequences of that" is easier said than done when it will be Euro banks on the hook for the losses and thus risking (again) that domino effect.

In essence, I think it's basically the contrast between Lehman and AIG. When the US gvt bailed AIG, it saved Goldman and SocGen a huge amount of losses - Which might have killed these banks, no matter what they say. And we all know what happened when the US gvt thought the markets could take Lehman going bust...

I think that, either directly by bailing out countries or indirectly by bailing out the eurozone banks, this will end up translating as the ECB buying junk bonds and extending its balance sheet.

I still think that the PIIGS should be, temporarily or permanently, allowed out of the Euro and let to follow the Icelandic route of aggressive devaluation to restore competitivity & balance of payments (For example, Greeks will have to stop buying Euro goods if they rise drastically in price).
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Euro's Spanish Battle Needs Some Shock and Awe: Eric Chaney - Bloomberg

Euro's Spanish Battle Needs Some Shock and Awe: Eric Chaney

The major battle in the fight for the survival of the euro will be fought on Spanish soil. Greece, Ireland and soon Portugal should be regarded as skirmishes. But Spain is different, in terms of scale and solvency.

If the strategy implemented by European Union policy makers is appropriate, the markets will shift their attention to other risks, such as inflation, after the decisive event has taken place in Spain. If the EU plan is seen as inadequate, the euro- debt drama will roll out of control and the financial risks will be so great to cause a perfect global systemic storm.

The financial markets are neither pro- nor anti-euro. Yet, once they have evidence of a major inconsistency, they will press on until it is solved. In the case of the euro, the inconsistency is between its nature -- a currency without a state -- and its governance, impaired by a triple and self- defeating “No”: No fiscal union, no bailout, no sanctions.

Private investors will refrain from buying Spanish government bonds until they are convinced that the euro is sustainable, even if Spain is fundamentally solvent in the euro area. The reason is simple: If the euro were to break up, the new peseta would fall and the Spanish government would have to renegotiate with creditors.

Solvency Doubts

Liquidity backstops, such as the loans to Greece, Ireland and soon Portugal, have only avoided serial failures in the European banking system, including in the U.K. But they can’t dissipate doubts about the long-term solvency of countries, such as Greece, and they didn’t address the governance issue.

The way to end the crisis is to convince investors that the euro is sustainable by changing its governance. The Oct. 29 decision by EU leaders to create a permanent debt-crisis mechanism by 2013 was a watershed event in this regard. For the first time, the region’s politicians acknowledged that sovereign defaults are possible and must be dealt with in an orderly way.

To be fair, investors have remained skeptical. First, 2013 is very far away. Second, the future crisis-resolution system is still vague. Third, and more importantly, investors will continue to doubt the political commitment of the strongest members of the euro club, starting with Germany, until supranational euro-bonds are issued on behalf of member countries. The difficulty is that these bonds may initiate a “stealth fiscal union,” as former European Central Bank Chief Economist Otmar Issing recently warned against. This would trigger a popular rejection of the euro.

Issing Test

The “E-bonds” solution, advocated by Italian Finance Minister Giulio Tremonti and Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean- Claude Juncker, doesn’t pass the Issing test, since good- and poor-quality issuers would be merged. One remedy would be to issue bonds collateralized by taxes actually levied in each participant country. This would by no means imply a fiscal union because each member state would get an amount of funding equal to the collateral it would pledge. But its “fiscal devolution” dimension still makes it politically unpalatable at this stage.

Even though policy makers are moving much faster than expected toward a comprehensive governance overhaul, the speed at which the markets may choke the refinancing of governments of large countries, such as Spain or Italy, may overwhelm the timeframe of political negotiations.

This is why a “shock-and-awe” strategy is indispensable to governance. Policy makers are considering such an approach before the Feb. 11 economic summit of EU leaders in Brussels. A combined loan of 500 billion euros ($672 billion) to Portugal and Spain would probably cover their government-financing needs until the end of 2012, a reasonable deadline for the completion of the euro-governance overhaul, as well as providing them with a contingency facility to recapitalize banks in difficulty.

Bagehot Principle

This is the essence of the time-honored principle laid out by English writer Walter Bagehot in the 19th century for the lender of last resort: “Lend freely at a high rate on good collateral.”

Coordinated loans may fail to convince investors if the ECB doesn’t show a strong hand and express its commitment to safeguarding the euro during the Spanish battle. If the ECB is convinced that Spain is solvent, then the bank shouldn’t be concerned by a possible deterioration in its balance sheet caused by purchases of Spanish bonds at a price lower than fundamentals would warrant. In the end, taxpayers would even pocket a profit, since the ECB would book a capital gain on the sale of its Spanish bonds a few years later.

Since the Bagehot-inspired “shock-and-awe” strategy is both rational and feasible, it is likely to be implemented, given the economic and political stakes in the Spanish case. Tinkering and delaying decisions would just lead to an intractable situation. For European policy makers, taking a calculated risk to restore the stability of the euro is a much more sensible option than praying that nothing will happen.

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I think the European voters are bloody idiots and nobody should ask their fucking opinion. They like the Euro well enough or even some kind of multinational project but can't take what it means in terms of abandoning national supremacy for purely sentimental reasons!!

I mean, it's not like the average citizen on the streets ever had any power at the national level. Furthermore, a central European supranational/federal state doesn't mean that more power could not be given to outright local/regional governments. It's being done, actually, iirc, as I think Z might confirm. And so, the dumb fucking average voter could actually have more power rather than less. I don't think Brussels and the Eurocrats populating it give too much of a shit about local interests/concerns about schools and hospitals and garbage collection.

But, on things like fiscal balances and stuff - Yeah, we need a coordinated approach. And, again, for the dumb fuck voters, 'coordinated' doesn't mean 'uniformed'!! We may let Ireland practice fiscal dumping for a while to pull them out of the 19C. Or give money to Portugal to make sure they transit from a fascist dictatorship to a social democracy without too much bumps. But, bloody hell, we do need someone to run the ship coherently if we want to survive crisis like the one we just had.

Else, admit people aren't ready for Europe and shelve the whole project until another European total war convince the survivors there was something in that idea...
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