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Trichet warns Ireland to stick to its bailout plan for sake of euro
Tuesday, 21st December 2010
EUROZONE CRISIS

Trichet warns Ireland to stick to its bailout plan for sake of euro | City A.M.

EUROPEAN Central Bank head Jean-Claude Trichet said yesterday Eurozone countries must do more individually and collectively to combat the bloc’s debt crisis, and Ireland must stick “rigorously” to its bailout plan.

In a position paper published on its website, the ECB earlier expressed “serious concerns” that Ireland’s rescue package could affect the institution’s liquidity operations in the Euro zone.

Asked if he was concerned about the health of Irish banks, Trichet said: “The Irish [bailout] plan is designed for Ireland to face up to its own particular problems, which have mostly to do with its banking system.”

“We consider it necessary [for Ireland] to complete this plan rigorously,” he added.
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Europe's central bank worried about Irish bailout

Updated at 3:46 pm today

Radio New Zealand : News : Business : Europe's central bank worried about Irish bailout

The European Central Bank has expressed concerns that the 85-billion-euro bailout of the Irish Republic could affect its ability to provide further support to eurozone members.

The bank says possible flaws in the bailout legislation could compromise its ability to provide collateral for future funding.

The BBC reports the ECB is concerned about the quality of the collateral it holds in case any loans made to Ireland are not paid back.


It also says the powers granted to Irish Finance Minister Brian Lenihan by a draft law "interfere significantly" with the rights of shareholders and creditors of financial institutions.

On Friday, credit rating agency Moody's cut Ireland's debt rating sharply.

The Irish government has introduced a series of spending cuts and tax rises totalling 15 billon euros as a condition of the bailout.

Last week, the International Monetary Fund approved a three-year loan of 22.5 billion euros for the republic - the first part of its contribution to the EU and IMF rescue package.

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The European Union Is Over: Opinion
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12/20/10 - 03:36 PM EST

The European Union Is Over: Opinion | Opinion News | Print Financial & Investing Articles | TheStreet

By John Carney, Senior Editor, CNBC.com

NEW YORK (CNBC) -- The decision by the European Union last week to create a permanent bailout fund may not end the sovereign-debt crisis but it will -- eventually -- end the European Union as we know it.

The idea behind a common currency was to allow free trade and investment between European countries without the risk of competitive currency devaluations. It was supposed to make Europe more inviting to global capital and credit investment. It was an attempt to create monetary stability without the imposition of a centralized fiscal and political regime.

All of these were noble goals. But the attempt has failed.

The permanent bailout fund will create moral hazard, inviting eurozone members to engage in budgetary brinksmanship and free-riding that will make bailouts more likely. To ameliorate the moral hazard -- and to satisfy the demands of the Germans -- the Europeans promise that the bailouts will come with "strict conditionality."

The first effect of "strict conditionality" will be the loss of fiscal independence by eurozone members. The European Union will exercise far more control over how its members tax and spend.

"It was wishful thinking to assume it was going to work without a much stronger -- not a straitjacket, but something more coercive, and stronger in terms of discipline," French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde Europeans told my brother Brian Carney in an interview that ran in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend.

This will likely mean that European countries will no longer be permitted to compete for investment by adjusting their tax and regulatory structures to be more inviting to business. Countries such as France and Germany always regarded this as "poaching" by countries like Ireland, which attracted investment and jobs by lowering its corporate tax rates.

The Europeans -- well, mostly the French and Germans -- believe that this will redistribute the jobs and investment from the low tax poachers -- ending what they view as a "race to the bottom." But they are wrong. As the downward pressure this competition exerted on taxation and regulation is relieved, taxes and regulatory burdens will rise and Europe will become less hospitable to business and investment. Many jobs and investment will be redistributed right out of Europe altogether.

Europe will not only lose the advantages of competitive taxation and regulation -- it will lose the advantage of diversification. The fiscal and political independence of eurozone members allowed for a variety of tax and regulatory regimes to proliferate, allowing businesses to choose forums in which to operate. Because businesses and investors have diverse needs, this diversity meant it was more likely that they would be able to find a home in Europe. A tech start-up might be more at home in Ireland, while an industrial giant might find Germany a better place to headquarter.

In a more unified regime, some businesses will not only be pushed out of Europe -- they may just not start at all. The error of a single system of taxation is that it assumes that a single system can ever be the correct one. In fact, however, businesses of different sorts require different sorts of taxation to prosper. Destroying the tax diversity of Europe will undermine business formation.

What's more, the end of tax diversity will make European tax regimes less friendly to start-ups. Special interests -- particularly large corporations in France and Germany -- will dictate tax policies. These will inevitably create barriers to entry to protect existing corporate power from start-up competition. Incumbent corporate powers will exercise their political muscle to prevent business dynamism, block competition, and secure subsidies of their own corporate structures.

The end of diversity also increases the risk of error costs. When a homogenous regime is imposed, it means that any errors in that regime are spread to all the euro members. If a level of taxation is growth-destroying, it won't just destroy growth here or there. It will destroy it everywhere. And, since there won't be any room for departures from that regime, it will be hard to even detect that the tax is destroying growth. The "test subject" will have been assassinated.

The second effect of a permanent bailout fund will be to create "strict conditionality" even without a bailout. Credit markets will charge a premium for any state that appears not to be meeting the EU's bailout requirements. Eventually all eurozone members will have to abide by fiscal policies set by the French or Germans on the pain of finding the global credit markets closed to them. The price of disobeying the Eurocracy will be the inability to borrow. It's a takeover disguised as a bailout.

You can expect to hear lots about this loss of fiscal independence as Europe moves closer to a fiscal union. But the eurozone members are losing more than their fiscal independence. While the strictures on being a candidate for funds from the "European Stabilization Mechanism" are currently imagined to be strictly fiscal -- tax and spending -- they will in very short order become regulatory. Whether it is banking regulations or worker safety regulations, no country will be permitted to depart from European standards.

The power of the purse will not end with economic regulation. It will eventually include non-economic regulation -- in other words, social policy and human rights. Once the Eurocracy realizes it has gained control of the power of European governments to finance their operations, it will begin to exert its control over every policy conceivable. Everything from immigration policy, to abortion laws, to military policies will be held hostage by the "strict conditionality" of the European Stabilization Mechanism.

If that sounds farfetched, recall that the national government of the United States was able to raise the drinking age in every single state -- something that was far beyond its direct authority -- by holding federal highway funds hostage. Now imagine what a centralized government could accomplish if it had the power to completely shut off access to credit markets by any local political authority. That's exactly the world that the members of the eurozone are on the verge of creating. Sure, the national and local governments of Europe will be allowed to keep a few inconsequential quirks. Those are good for tourism, after all. But anything important will be a candidate for centralized regulation.

It's simply stunning that this revolution in the European political system is about to take place under the guise of a "limited treaty change" that European officials say will not require the votes of member states. It's hard to believe that anyone truly thinks this is minor; more likely the EU officials are just frightened that the peoples of Europe will not accept the new regime. Better to impose it before the people can oppose it.

The independence of European governments is passing from the earth. The stars across the flag of the European Union are flickering one last time just before they are extinguished.

"This is the way the world ends," T.S. Eliot once wrote. "Not with a bang but a whimper."

-- Written by John Carney of CNBC
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Do you agree with that third article, Fred?
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Well, we've been hearing the same thing since the 50s. Still, I guess not even the Roman Empire lasted forever so if people keep on saying it eventually one of them will turn out to be right.

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The Europeans -- well, mostly the French and Germans -- believe that this will redistribute the jobs and investment from the low tax poachers -- ending what they view as a "race to the bottom." But they are wrong. As the downward pressure this competition exerted on taxation and regulation is relieved, taxes and regulatory burdens will rise and Europe will become less hospitable to business and investment. Many jobs and investment will be redistributed right out of Europe altogether.
So you're saying that Europeans are capable of grasping the concept of competition amongst themselves, but should they get together as a group they'll just totally forget about the existence of the US, China and everyone else and blithely crank their tax rates up to a bajillion percent?

I heard that they also like sticking their fingers in electical sockets and eating dead animals that they find in the street.

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Europe will not only lose the advantages of competitive taxation and regulation -- it will lose the advantage of diversification. The fiscal and political independence of eurozone members allowed for a variety of tax and regulatory regimes to proliferate, allowing businesses to choose forums in which to operate. Because businesses and investors have diverse needs, this diversity meant it was more likely that they would be able to find a home in Europe. A tech start-up might be more at home in Ireland, while an industrial giant might find Germany a better place to headquarter.
Well admittedly local government finance is a lot more boring than the disastrous collapse of the world's biggest economic entity, but in most European countries a great deal of corporate tax is paid regionally or at least varies by region. It's a trend that's on the increase, partly just because decentralisation is very fashionable at the moment, and partly thanks to EU encouragement - not just with the whole subsidiarity thing, but as a part of the Lisbon strategy and the other plan that came afterwards whose name I've forgotten. They're all about creating "competitivity hubs".
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Do you agree with that third article, Fred?
I'm not really sure what I think about the conclusion that "European Union is Over". The systemic risk is pretty big but the inertia of the thing is also big.

I do agree that the financial risks is what may pull it apart more than the socio-political ones.

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Alright. Then, I agree with you. But, as Zichao explains, I think that your article makes a poor case for that point. It's indeed totally out of whack on that taxation thing.

Furthermore, I still don't buy the idea that the EU is doomed to fail while the USofA worked out... What I would say is that you cannot have a union with "but, really, there's not too much transfer of sovereignty to Brussels". It's either one or the other.

If this crisis allow the French and the Germans to take over Europe peacefully and smartly, it'll be for the greater good and what ought to happen anyhow.
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If this crisis allow the French and the Germans to take over Europe peacefully and smartly, it'll be for the greater good and what ought to happen anyhow.
Being a long way away I might not be on the ball on this one but I don't see that a takeover is necessary. Germany has provided an economic example that will be painful (in some cases extremely painful) to follow. If somehow though Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Greece painfully stumble towards it, it would be a consensus rather than a takeover. I see Italy under Berluscone as being the most difficult state.
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The way I see it 'take-over' doesn't mean we send Generalgouverneur to take over. It just acknowledges that the countries have been unable to manage their own affairs to the fairly low standard set by the French and Germans (i.e. they too are broke if you take into account future commitments) and thus they need someone outside of their own systems to regulate them.

Personally, i still think they might benefit from a temporary exit out of the Euro and a devaluation so as to spread the pain that a competitive adjustment is going to provoke anyhow. That being said, that 'solution' is partial because it doesn't address the problem of their banking systems whose debt many other banks (French, German notably) hold.

Trichet can certainly try his own variations of QE2 to debase the whole Euro as an alternative "solution" but...

In any case, the more general point was that the EU need greater harmonisation. And that, even if the Germans are ultimately in charge, it shouldn't necessarily be to the practical benefit of Germans alone - Their system was based on an artificially competitive export economy (China-style, just way way less extreme. Japan-style, basically). That cannot go on if they want Greece/all the PIIGS to rebalance...
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