Originally Posted by Gilles de Rais

OK. Let's try a different tack. You said you reject religions other than Christianity because of their views of personal responsibility in order to secure divine grace, right? (That would actually be an awesome thread in its own right, if you want to start it).

I have rejected other religions for a variety of reasons.....it is true that I cannot credit any religion that argues a human being can attain righteousness by his own conduct, given the empirical evidence of improper conduct upon the part of even the best among us.....

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Right. So how comes other religions emerged? Let's leave aside Judaism (precusor) and Islam (a deviancy from the Christ teachings, like all the other Christian currents you disagree with). What about Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism, Animism, Paganism etc etc? What drives them? If they are not the Revealed Truth and they are not sociological phenomenons either, what are they?

it would be necessary to examine each individually....what was the precursor to the religion and what is stressed within it to distinguish it from it's precursor.....not all religions profess to be a "revealed truth"....many don't even acknowledge the existence of an entity that could 'reveal'......some may in fact be sociological phenomenons.....Islam is not a deviation from Christianity, it's a deviation from Judaism....they consider themselves children of the God of Abraham but not part of the covenant between God and Abraham.....

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Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet

tell me this wasn't in the back of your mind...dogmatic.

If it had been, I would have been using "dogmatic".

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Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet

it would be necessary to examine each individually....what was the precursor to the religion and what is stressed within it to distinguish it from it's precursor.....not all religions profess to be a "revealed truth"....many don't even acknowledge the existence of an entity that could 'reveal'......some may in fact be sociological phenomenons.

If there are precursors (implying an evolution of ideas/creed) and some of them are indeed sociological phenomenons, how do we tell the ones that aren't? And what are they?

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Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet

I wouldn't propose your illiterate drivel is anything other than illiterate drivel.....

Oh dear: not quite up to Saint Paul, is it? Good enough for a lavatory wall, perhaps, after a few pints!

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